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[[Image:JE157-0749.jpg|550px|thumb|Jean Elsen sale 157, lot 749]]
 
[[Image:JE157-0749.jpg|550px|thumb|Jean Elsen sale 157, lot 749]]
  
This specimen was lot 749 in Jean Elsen sale 157 (Brussels, December 2023), where it did not sell. The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''VLAANDEREN, Graafschap, Albrecht en Isabella (1598-1621), Cu dubbele penning, 1616, Brugge. Vz/ Gekroond monogram AE. Kz/ Gekroond wapenschild op een Bourgondisch kruis tussen het jaartal. Zeer Fraai à Prachtig.'' ([[Netherlands, Spanish|county of Flanders]], Albert and Isabella, 1598-1621, copper double penny of 1616, Bruges mint. Obverse: crowned "AE" monogram; reverse: crowned arms over a Burgundian cross divides the date. Very Fine - Extremely Fine.)"</blockquote> It was offered again as lot 984 in Jean Elsen sale 158 (Brussels, March 2024), where it sold for €60 (about US$78 including buyer's fees). The catalog description<sup>[2]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''VLAANDEREN, Graafschap, Albrecht en Isabella (1598-1621), Cu dubbele penning, 1616, Brugge. Vz/ Gekroond monogram AE. Kz/ Gekroond wapenschild op een Bourgondisch kruis tussen het jaartal. Zeer Fraai à Prachtig.'' (county of Flanders, Albert and Isabella, 1598-1621, copper double penny of 1616, Bruges mint. Obverse: crowned monogram "AE"; reverse: crowned arms over a Burgundian cross divides two firesteels. Very Fine - Extremely Fine.)"</blockquote> This type of 1606-10 and 1615-16 is listed in the SCWC as a two deniers, its French name. We will catalog it by its Flemish name, ''dubbele penning''. It was slightly heavier than a [[Brabant 1616(a) gigot|''gigot'']] so we conclude it was worth more.
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This specimen was lot 749 in Jean Elsen sale 157 (Brussels, December 2023), where it did not sell. The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''VLAANDEREN, Graafschap, Albrecht en Isabella (1598-1621), Cu dubbele penning, 1616, Brugge. Vz/ Gekroond monogram AE. Kz/ Gekroond wapenschild op een Bourgondisch kruis tussen het jaartal. Zeer Fraai à Prachtig.'' ([[Netherlands, Spanish|county of Flanders]], Albert and Isabella, 1598-1621, copper double penny of 1616, Bruges mint. Obverse: crowned "AE" monogram; reverse: crowned arms over a Burgundian cross divides the date. Very Fine - Extremely Fine.)"</blockquote> It was offered again as lot 984 in Jean Elsen sale 158 (Brussels, March 2024), where it sold for €60 (about US$78 including buyer's fees). The catalog description<sup>[2]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''VLAANDEREN, Graafschap, Albrecht en Isabella (1598-1621), Cu dubbele penning, 1616, Brugge. Vz/ Gekroond monogram AE. Kz/ Gekroond wapenschild op een Bourgondisch kruis tussen het jaartal. Zeer Fraai à Prachtig.'' (county of Flanders, Albert and Isabella, 1598-1621, copper double penny of 1616, Bruges mint. Obverse: crowned monogram "AE"; reverse: crowned arms over a Burgundian cross divides two firesteels. Very Fine - Extremely Fine.)"</blockquote> This type of 1606-10 and 1615-16 is listed in the SCWC as a [[Tournai 1616 2 deniers|two deniers]], its French name. We will catalog it by its Flemish name, ''dubbele penning''. It was slightly heavier than a [[Brabant 1616(a) gigot|''gigot'']] so we conclude it was worth more.
  
 
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* [[Brabant 1613(s) liard]], Maastricht mint
 
* [[Brabant 1613(s) liard]], Maastricht mint
 
* [[Thorn 1614 oord]]
 
* [[Thorn 1614 oord]]
* [[Brabant 1616(a) gigot]], Brussels mint
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* [[Tournai 1616 2 deniers|Tournai 1616 double denier]]
* [[Brabant 1616(t) gigot]], Bois-le-Duc mint
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* [[Brabant 1616(a) gigot|Brabant 1616 gigot, Brussels mint]] = ½ liard
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* [[Brabant 1616(t) gigot|Brabant 1616 gigot, Bois-le-Duc mint]]
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* [[Tournai 1616 1/4 patagon|Tournai 1616 quarter patagon]]
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* [[Tournai 1616 patagon Dav-4438|Tournai 1616 patagon]]
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* [[Brabant 1616(h) patagon Dav-4432|Brabant 1616 patagon, Antwerp mint]]
 
* [[Flanders 1616 patagon Dav-4435|1616 patagon, Bruges mint]]
 
* [[Flanders 1616 patagon Dav-4435|1616 patagon, Bruges mint]]
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* [[Brabant 1616(h) couronne d'or Fr-100|Brabant 1616 ''couronne d'or'', Antwerp mint]]
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* [[Flanders 1616 2 souverain d'or Fr-223|1616 ''dubbele souverein'']]
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* [[Tournai 1616 2 souverain d'or Fr-391|Tournai 1616 ''double souverain d'or'']]
 
* [[Coins and currency dated 1616]]
 
* [[Coins and currency dated 1616]]
  
 
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[[Category:Selections from Jean Elsen sale 157]][[Category: Coinage of the Dutch provinces]][[Category:Selections from Jean Elsen sale 158]]

Latest revision as of 08:56, 10 July 2024

Jean Elsen sale 157, lot 749

This specimen was lot 749 in Jean Elsen sale 157 (Brussels, December 2023), where it did not sell. The catalog description[1] noted,

"VLAANDEREN, Graafschap, Albrecht en Isabella (1598-1621), Cu dubbele penning, 1616, Brugge. Vz/ Gekroond monogram AE. Kz/ Gekroond wapenschild op een Bourgondisch kruis tussen het jaartal. Zeer Fraai à Prachtig. (county of Flanders, Albert and Isabella, 1598-1621, copper double penny of 1616, Bruges mint. Obverse: crowned "AE" monogram; reverse: crowned arms over a Burgundian cross divides the date. Very Fine - Extremely Fine.)"

It was offered again as lot 984 in Jean Elsen sale 158 (Brussels, March 2024), where it sold for €60 (about US$78 including buyer's fees). The catalog description[2] noted,

"VLAANDEREN, Graafschap, Albrecht en Isabella (1598-1621), Cu dubbele penning, 1616, Brugge. Vz/ Gekroond monogram AE. Kz/ Gekroond wapenschild op een Bourgondisch kruis tussen het jaartal. Zeer Fraai à Prachtig. (county of Flanders, Albert and Isabella, 1598-1621, copper double penny of 1616, Bruges mint. Obverse: crowned monogram "AE"; reverse: crowned arms over a Burgundian cross divides two firesteels. Very Fine - Extremely Fine.)"

This type of 1606-10 and 1615-16 is listed in the SCWC as a two deniers, its French name. We will catalog it by its Flemish name, dubbele penning. It was slightly heavier than a gigot so we conclude it was worth more.

Recorded mintage: unknown.

Specification: copper, this specimen 2,54 g.

Catalog reference: KM 6; G.H. 299-6; V.H. 599.

Source:

  • Cuhaj, George S., and Thomas Michael, Standard Catalog of World Coins, 1601-1700, 6th ed., Iola, WI: Krause Publications, 2014.
  • van Gelder, H. Enno, and Marcel Hoc, Les Monnaies des pays-Bas Bourguignons et Espagnols, 1434-1713, Amsterdam, J. Schulman, 1960, with supplement of 1964.
  • [1]Elsen, Philippe, et al., Vente Publique 157, Collection J.-C. Martiny, Brussels: Jean Elsen et ses Fils S.A., 2023.
  • [2]Elsen, Philippe, et al., Vente Publique 158, Monnaies de la Principauté de Liège, Brussels: Jean Elsen et ses Fils S.A., 2024.

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