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[[Image:JE157-0749.jpg|550px|thumb|Jean Elsen sale 157, lot 749]] | [[Image:JE157-0749.jpg|550px|thumb|Jean Elsen sale 157, lot 749]] | ||
| − | This specimen was lot 749 in Jean Elsen sale 157 (Brussels, December 2023), where it did not sell. The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''VLAANDEREN, Graafschap, Albrecht en Isabella (1598-1621), Cu dubbele penning, 1616, Brugge. Vz/ Gekroond monogram AE. Kz/ Gekroond wapenschild op een Bourgondisch kruis tussen het jaartal. Zeer Fraai à Prachtig.'' ([[Netherlands, Spanish|county of Flanders]], Albert and Isabella, 1598-1621, copper double penny of 1616, Bruges mint. Obverse: crowned "AE" monogram; reverse: crowned arms over a Burgundian cross divides the date. Very Fine - Extremely Fine.)"</blockquote> This type of 1606-10 and 1615-16 is listed in the SCWC as a two deniers, its French name. We will catalog it by its Flemish name, ''dubbele penning''. It was slightly heavier than a [[Brabant 1616(a) gigot|''gigot'']] so we conclude it was worth more. | + | This specimen was lot 749 in Jean Elsen sale 157 (Brussels, December 2023), where it did not sell. The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''VLAANDEREN, Graafschap, Albrecht en Isabella (1598-1621), Cu dubbele penning, 1616, Brugge. Vz/ Gekroond monogram AE. Kz/ Gekroond wapenschild op een Bourgondisch kruis tussen het jaartal. Zeer Fraai à Prachtig.'' ([[Netherlands, Spanish|county of Flanders]], Albert and Isabella, 1598-1621, copper double penny of 1616, Bruges mint. Obverse: crowned "AE" monogram; reverse: crowned arms over a Burgundian cross divides the date. Very Fine - Extremely Fine.)"</blockquote> It was offered again as lot 984 in Jean Elsen sale 158 (Brussels, March 2024), where it sold for €60 (about US$78 including buyer's fees). The catalog description<sup>[2]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''VLAANDEREN, Graafschap, Albrecht en Isabella (1598-1621), Cu dubbele penning, 1616, Brugge. Vz/ Gekroond monogram AE. Kz/ Gekroond wapenschild op een Bourgondisch kruis tussen het jaartal. Zeer Fraai à Prachtig.'' (county of Flanders, Albert and Isabella, 1598-1621, copper double penny of 1616, Bruges mint. Obverse: crowned monogram "AE"; reverse: crowned arms over a Burgundian cross divides two firesteels. Very Fine - Extremely Fine.)"</blockquote> This type of 1606-10 and 1615-16 is listed in the SCWC as a [[Tournai 1616 2 deniers|two deniers]], its French name. We will catalog it by its Flemish name, ''dubbele penning''. It was slightly heavier than a [[Brabant 1616(a) gigot|''gigot'']] so we conclude it was worth more. |
''Recorded mintage:'' unknown. | ''Recorded mintage:'' unknown. | ||
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* van Gelder, H. Enno, and Marcel Hoc, ''Les Monnaies des pays-Bas Bourguignons et Espagnols, 1434-1713,'' Amsterdam, J. Schulman, 1960, with supplement of 1964. | * van Gelder, H. Enno, and Marcel Hoc, ''Les Monnaies des pays-Bas Bourguignons et Espagnols, 1434-1713,'' Amsterdam, J. Schulman, 1960, with supplement of 1964. | ||
* <sup>[1]</sup>Elsen, Philippe, et al., ''Vente Publique 157, Collection J.-C. Martiny'', Brussels: Jean Elsen et ses Fils S.A., 2023. | * <sup>[1]</sup>Elsen, Philippe, et al., ''Vente Publique 157, Collection J.-C. Martiny'', Brussels: Jean Elsen et ses Fils S.A., 2023. | ||
| + | * <sup>[2]</sup>Elsen, Philippe, et al., ''Vente Publique 158, Monnaies de la Principauté de Liège'', Brussels: Jean Elsen et ses Fils S.A., 2024. | ||
''Link to:'' | ''Link to:'' | ||
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* [[Brabant 1613(s) liard]], Maastricht mint | * [[Brabant 1613(s) liard]], Maastricht mint | ||
* [[Thorn 1614 oord]] | * [[Thorn 1614 oord]] | ||
| − | * [[Brabant 1616(a) gigot | + | * [[Tournai 1616 2 deniers|Tournai 1616 double denier]] |
| − | * [[Brabant 1616(t) gigot | + | * [[Brabant 1616(a) gigot|Brabant 1616 gigot, Brussels mint]] = ½ liard |
| + | * [[Brabant 1616(t) gigot|Brabant 1616 gigot, Bois-le-Duc mint]] | ||
| + | * [[Tournai 1616 1/4 patagon|Tournai 1616 quarter patagon]] | ||
| + | * [[Tournai 1616 patagon Dav-4438|Tournai 1616 patagon]] | ||
| + | * [[Brabant 1616(h) patagon Dav-4432|Brabant 1616 patagon, Antwerp mint]] | ||
| + | * [[Flanders 1616 patagon Dav-4435|1616 patagon, Bruges mint]] | ||
| + | * [[Brabant 1616(h) couronne d'or Fr-100|Brabant 1616 ''couronne d'or'', Antwerp mint]] | ||
| + | * [[Flanders 1616 2 souverain d'or Fr-223|1616 ''dubbele souverein'']] | ||
| + | * [[Tournai 1616 2 souverain d'or Fr-391|Tournai 1616 ''double souverain d'or'']] | ||
* [[Coins and currency dated 1616]] | * [[Coins and currency dated 1616]] | ||
| − | [[Category:Selections from Jean Elsen sale 157]][[Category: Coinage of the Dutch provinces]] | + | [[Category:Selections from Jean Elsen sale 157]][[Category: Coinage of the Dutch provinces]][[Category:Selections from Jean Elsen sale 158]] |
Latest revision as of 08:56, 10 July 2024
This specimen was lot 749 in Jean Elsen sale 157 (Brussels, December 2023), where it did not sell. The catalog description[1] noted,
"VLAANDEREN, Graafschap, Albrecht en Isabella (1598-1621), Cu dubbele penning, 1616, Brugge. Vz/ Gekroond monogram AE. Kz/ Gekroond wapenschild op een Bourgondisch kruis tussen het jaartal. Zeer Fraai à Prachtig. (county of Flanders, Albert and Isabella, 1598-1621, copper double penny of 1616, Bruges mint. Obverse: crowned "AE" monogram; reverse: crowned arms over a Burgundian cross divides the date. Very Fine - Extremely Fine.)"
It was offered again as lot 984 in Jean Elsen sale 158 (Brussels, March 2024), where it sold for €60 (about US$78 including buyer's fees). The catalog description[2] noted,
"VLAANDEREN, Graafschap, Albrecht en Isabella (1598-1621), Cu dubbele penning, 1616, Brugge. Vz/ Gekroond monogram AE. Kz/ Gekroond wapenschild op een Bourgondisch kruis tussen het jaartal. Zeer Fraai à Prachtig. (county of Flanders, Albert and Isabella, 1598-1621, copper double penny of 1616, Bruges mint. Obverse: crowned monogram "AE"; reverse: crowned arms over a Burgundian cross divides two firesteels. Very Fine - Extremely Fine.)"
This type of 1606-10 and 1615-16 is listed in the SCWC as a two deniers, its French name. We will catalog it by its Flemish name, dubbele penning. It was slightly heavier than a gigot so we conclude it was worth more.
Recorded mintage: unknown.
Specification: copper, this specimen 2,54 g.
Catalog reference: KM 6; G.H. 299-6; V.H. 599.
- Cuhaj, George S., and Thomas Michael, Standard Catalog of World Coins, 1601-1700, 6th ed., Iola, WI: Krause Publications, 2014.
- van Gelder, H. Enno, and Marcel Hoc, Les Monnaies des pays-Bas Bourguignons et Espagnols, 1434-1713, Amsterdam, J. Schulman, 1960, with supplement of 1964.
- [1]Elsen, Philippe, et al., Vente Publique 157, Collection J.-C. Martiny, Brussels: Jean Elsen et ses Fils S.A., 2023.
- [2]Elsen, Philippe, et al., Vente Publique 158, Monnaies de la Principauté de Liège, Brussels: Jean Elsen et ses Fils S.A., 2024.
Link to:
- Namur 1579 2 deniers
- Brabant 1613(s) liard, Maastricht mint
- Thorn 1614 oord
- Tournai 1616 double denier
- Brabant 1616 gigot, Brussels mint = ½ liard
- Brabant 1616 gigot, Bois-le-Duc mint
- Tournai 1616 quarter patagon
- Tournai 1616 patagon
- Brabant 1616 patagon, Antwerp mint
- 1616 patagon, Bruges mint
- Brabant 1616 couronne d'or, Antwerp mint
- 1616 dubbele souverein
- Tournai 1616 double souverain d'or
- Coins and currency dated 1616