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[[Image:SA53-0822.jpg|550px|thumb|Steve Album Auction 53, lot 822]]
 
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[[Image:Saxe-Altenburg 1789.jpg|600px|thumb|Altenburg in 1789]]
 
[[Image:Saxe-Altenburg 1789.jpg|600px|thumb|Altenburg in 1789]]
  
This specimen was lot 822 in Steve Album Auction 53 (Santa Rosa, CA, September 2025), where it sold for $390. The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, "[[German States, Saxe-Altenburg|SAXE-ALTENBURG]]: Johann Philipp, Friedrich, Johann Wilhelm, Friedrich Wilhelm, 1603-1625, AR thaler, 1624, an attractive specimen, F-VF." This state was created in 1602 from Saxe-Weimar for Johann II and survived until the death of Frederick William III in 1672, when it was claimed by Saxe-Gotha. This type was struck 1623-25 and is fairly common. The auctioneers misattributed it as [[Saxe-Altenburg 1625-WA thaler Dav-7369|Dav-7369]], which has the mintmaster's initials on the obverse.
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The first specimen was lot 822 in Steve Album Auction 53 (Santa Rosa, CA, September 2025), where it sold for $390. The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, "[[German States, Saxe-Altenburg|SAXE-ALTENBURG]]: Johann Philipp, Friedrich, Johann Wilhelm, Friedrich Wilhelm, 1603-1625, AR thaler, 1624, an attractive specimen, F-VF." The second specimen was lot 74604 in Stack's Bowers May 2026 World Premier Collectors Choice Auction (Costa Mesa, CA, May 2026), where it sold for $317.20. The catalog description<sup>[2]</sup> noted, "[[Germany|GERMANY]]. Saxe-Old-Altenburg. Taler, 1624-WA. Saalfeld Mint. Johann Philipp & Three Brothers. EF Details--Mount Removed, Cleaned. From the Greyhound Collection." This state was created in 1602 from Saxe-Weimar for Johann II and survived until the death of Frederick William III in 1672, when it was claimed by Saxe-Gotha. This type was struck 1623-25 and is fairly common. The auctioneers misattributed it as [[Saxe-Altenburg 1625-WA thaler Dav-7369|Dav-7369]], which has the mintmaster's initials on the obverse.
  
 
''Recorded mintage:'' unknown.
 
''Recorded mintage:'' unknown.
  
''Specification:'' silver, 43 mm diameter, this specimen 28.65 g.  
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''Specification:'' silver, 43 mm diameter, the first specimen 28.65 g.  
  
 
''Catalog reference:'' KM 302, [[Silver crowns by Davenport number|Dav-7371]].  
 
''Catalog reference:'' KM 302, [[Silver crowns by Davenport number|Dav-7371]].  
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* Gernot Schnee, ''Sächsiche Taler, 1500-1800.'' Frankfurt Am Main, P. N. Schulten, 1982.
 
* Gernot Schnee, ''Sächsiche Taler, 1500-1800.'' Frankfurt Am Main, P. N. Schulten, 1982.
 
* <sup>[1]</sup>Album, Stephen, Joseph Lang, Paul Montz, Michael Barry and Hanbing Feng, ''Auction 53, featuring Selections from the Dr. Robert A. Rosenfeld, Almer H. Orr III, Dr. Dirk Loer and Joe Sedillot Collections,'' Santa Rosa, CA: Stephen Album Rare Coins, Inc., 2025.  
 
* <sup>[1]</sup>Album, Stephen, Joseph Lang, Paul Montz, Michael Barry and Hanbing Feng, ''Auction 53, featuring Selections from the Dr. Robert A. Rosenfeld, Almer H. Orr III, Dr. Dirk Loer and Joe Sedillot Collections,'' Santa Rosa, CA: Stephen Album Rare Coins, Inc., 2025.  
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* <sup>[2]</sup>Orsini, Matt, Kyle Ponterio and Jeremy Bostwick, ''May 2026 World Premier Collectors Choice Online Auction - Ancients, World Coins & World Paper Money,'' Costa Mesa, CA: Stack's Bowers Galleries, Inc., 2026.
  
 
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* [[Coins and currency dated 1624]]
 
* [[Coins and currency dated 1624]]
  
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Steve Album Auction 53, lot 822
Stack's Bowers May 2026 World Premier Collectors Choice Auction, lot 74604
SB526-74604r.jpg
Altenburg in 1789

The first specimen was lot 822 in Steve Album Auction 53 (Santa Rosa, CA, September 2025), where it sold for $390. The catalog description[1] noted, "SAXE-ALTENBURG: Johann Philipp, Friedrich, Johann Wilhelm, Friedrich Wilhelm, 1603-1625, AR thaler, 1624, an attractive specimen, F-VF." The second specimen was lot 74604 in Stack's Bowers May 2026 World Premier Collectors Choice Auction (Costa Mesa, CA, May 2026), where it sold for $317.20. The catalog description[2] noted, "GERMANY. Saxe-Old-Altenburg. Taler, 1624-WA. Saalfeld Mint. Johann Philipp & Three Brothers. EF Details--Mount Removed, Cleaned. From the Greyhound Collection." This state was created in 1602 from Saxe-Weimar for Johann II and survived until the death of Frederick William III in 1672, when it was claimed by Saxe-Gotha. This type was struck 1623-25 and is fairly common. The auctioneers misattributed it as Dav-7369, which has the mintmaster's initials on the obverse.

Recorded mintage: unknown.

Specification: silver, 43 mm diameter, the first specimen 28.65 g.

Catalog reference: KM 302, Dav-7371.

Source:

  • Craig, William D., Germanic Coinages: Charlemagne through Wilhelm II, Mountain View, CA: 1954.
  • Cuhaj, George S., and Thomas Michael, Standard Catalog of World Coins, 1601-1700, 6th ed., Iola, WI: Krause Publications, 2014.
  • Davenport, John S., German Secular Talers, 1600-1700, Frankfurt: Numismatischer Verlag, 1976.
  • Gernot Schnee, Sächsiche Taler, 1500-1800. Frankfurt Am Main, P. N. Schulten, 1982.
  • [1]Album, Stephen, Joseph Lang, Paul Montz, Michael Barry and Hanbing Feng, Auction 53, featuring Selections from the Dr. Robert A. Rosenfeld, Almer H. Orr III, Dr. Dirk Loer and Joe Sedillot Collections, Santa Rosa, CA: Stephen Album Rare Coins, Inc., 2025.
  • [2]Orsini, Matt, Kyle Ponterio and Jeremy Bostwick, May 2026 World Premier Collectors Choice Online Auction - Ancients, World Coins & World Paper Money, Costa Mesa, CA: Stack's Bowers Galleries, Inc., 2026.

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