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[[Image:Saxony 1657 quarter thaler rev Ponterio 169-10350.jpg|300px|thumb|photo courtesy Stack's Bowers LLC]]
 
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This specimen was lot 10350 in Ponterio sale 169 (Baltimore, November 2012), where it sold for $247. The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, "[[Germany|GERMANY]]. Saxony. 1/4 Taler, 1657. Johann Georg II (1656-80). Vicariat issue. Toned. NGC EF-45. From the Demarete Collection." Saxony, one of the larger divisions of Germany and blessed with numerous silver mines, issued large numbers of thalers. Minor coinage of the German states is much less studied and well known and many rarities remain tucked away in the catalogs with low values. This one year type was issued to honor the elector's temporary office of vicar of the empire, which office he held only after the old emperor had died and before a new one was elected. The elector also issued a half thaler ([[Saxony 1657 1/2 thaler KM-458|KM 458]]), a single thaler ([[Saxony 1657 thaler Dav-7630|Dav-7630]]), a double thaler ([[Saxony 1657 2 thaler Dav-LS398|Dav-LS398]]), a triple thaler (Dav-LS397), a quadruple thaler ([[Saxony 1657 4 thaler Dav-LS396|Dav-LS396]]), a single ducat ([[Saxony 1657 ducat Fr-2720|KM 463]]) and a double ducat ([[Saxony 1657 2 ducats Fr-2719|KM 464]]) on this occasion. We may assume he thought it was a big deal.  
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This specimen was lot 10350 in Ponterio sale 169 (Baltimore, November 2012), where it sold for $247. The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, "[[Germany|GERMANY]]. Saxony. 1/4 Taler, 1657. Johann Georg II (1656-80). Vicariat issue. Toned. NGC EF-45. From the Demarete Collection." Saxony, one of the larger divisions of Germany and blessed with numerous silver mines, issued large numbers of thalers. Minor coinage of the German states is much less studied and well known and many rarities remain tucked away in the catalogs with low values. This one year type was issued to honor the elector's temporary office of vicar of the empire, which office he held only after the old emperor had died and before a new one was elected. The elector also issued a half thaler ([[Saxony 1657 1/2 thaler KM-458|KM 458]]), a single thaler ([[Saxony 1657 thaler Dav-7630|Dav-7630]]), a double thaler ([[Saxony 1657 2 thaler Dav-LS398|Dav-LS398]]), a triple thaler ([[Saxony 1657 3 thaler Dav-LS397|Dav-LS397]]), a quadruple thaler ([[Saxony 1657 4 thaler Dav-LS396|Dav-LS396]]), a single ducat ([[Saxony 1657 ducat Fr-2720|KM 463]]) and a double ducat ([[Saxony 1657 2 ducats Fr-2719|KM 464]]) on this occasion. We may assume he thought it was a big deal.  
  
 
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* [[Saxony 1656-CR 1/4 thaler KM-407|1656-CR quarter thaler, Johann Georg I]]
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* [[Saxony 1656-CR 1/4 thaler KM-407|1656-☘ CR quarter thaler, Johann Georg I]]
 
* [[Saxony 1656 thaler Dav-7614]]
 
* [[Saxony 1656 thaler Dav-7614]]
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* [[Saxony 1657 1/2 thaler KM-458|1657 half thaler, vicariat]]
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* [[Saxony 1657 1/2 thaler KM-458|1657-☘ half thaler, vicariat]]
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* [[Saxony 1657 thaler Dav-7630|1657 thaler, vicariat]]
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* [[Saxony 1657 thaler Dav-7630|1657-☘ thaler, vicariat]]
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* [[Saxony 1657 2 thaler Dav-LS398|1657 double thaler, vicariat]]
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* [[Saxony 1657 2 thaler Dav-LS398|1657-☘ double thaler, on the vicariat]]
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* [[Saxony 1657 4 thaler Dav-LS396|1657 quadruple thaler, vicariat]]
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* [[Saxony 1657 3 thaler Dav-LS397|1657-☘ triple thaler, on the vicariat]]
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* [[Saxony 1657 ducat Fr-2720|1657 ducat, vicariat]]
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* [[Saxony 1657 4 thaler Dav-LS396|1657-☘ quadruple thaler, on the vicariat]]
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* [[Saxony 1657 2 ducats Fr-2719|1657 double ducat, on the vicariat]]
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* [[Saxony 1657 ducat Fr-2720|1657-☘ ducat, on the vicariat]]
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* [[Saxony 1657 2 ducats Fr-2719|1657-☘ double ducat, on the vicariat]]
 
* [[Saxony 1660-CR 1/4 thaler|1660-CR quarter thaler, Johann Georg II]]
 
* [[Saxony 1660-CR 1/4 thaler|1660-CR quarter thaler, Johann Georg II]]
 
* [[Coins and currency dated 1657]]
 
* [[Coins and currency dated 1657]]

Latest revision as of 09:41, 2 July 2026

Ponterio sale 169, lot 10350
photo courtesy Stack's Bowers LLC

This specimen was lot 10350 in Ponterio sale 169 (Baltimore, November 2012), where it sold for $247. The catalog description[1] noted, "GERMANY. Saxony. 1/4 Taler, 1657. Johann Georg II (1656-80). Vicariat issue. Toned. NGC EF-45. From the Demarete Collection." Saxony, one of the larger divisions of Germany and blessed with numerous silver mines, issued large numbers of thalers. Minor coinage of the German states is much less studied and well known and many rarities remain tucked away in the catalogs with low values. This one year type was issued to honor the elector's temporary office of vicar of the empire, which office he held only after the old emperor had died and before a new one was elected. The elector also issued a half thaler (KM 458), a single thaler (Dav-7630), a double thaler (Dav-LS398), a triple thaler (Dav-LS397), a quadruple thaler (Dav-LS396), a single ducat (KM 463) and a double ducat (KM 464) on this occasion. We may assume he thought it was a big deal.

Recorded mintage: unknown.

Specification: silver.

Catalog reference: KM-457.

Source:

  • Cuhaj, George S., and Thomas Michael, Standard Catalog of World Coins, 1601-1700, 6th ed., Iola, WI: Krause Publications, 2014.
  • [1]Ponterio, Richard, Ponterio sale 169: The November 2012 Baltimore Auction, Irvine, CA: Stack's Bowers, LLC, 2012.

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