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[[Image:Prussia K293-364.jpg|550px|thumb|Künker sale 293, lot 364]]
 
[[Image:Prussia K293-364.jpg|550px|thumb|Künker sale 293, lot 364]]
  
This specimen was lot 364 in Künker sale 293 (Osnabruck, Germany, July 2017), where it sold for €3,800 (about US$5,122 including buyer's fees). The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''PREUSSEN, KÖNIGREICH Friedrich II. der Große, 1740-1786. Levantetaler 1767, Berlin oder Magdeburg. Handelsmünze. R Sehr schön-vorzüglich. Auch die jüngere numismatische Forschung konnte nicht klären, ob diese Handelsmünze in Berlin oder Magdeburg geprägt wurde.'' ([[Germany]], kingdom of Prussia, Frederick II (the Great), 1740-86, Levant thaler of 1767, Berlin or Magdeburg mints. Scarce, very fine to extremely fine. The most recent research still cannot determine whether this thaler was minted in Berlin or Magdeburg.)"</blockquote> The Prussian thaler was too light and debased to circulate outside her boundaries. This issue may have been an experiment to create an internationally acceptable coin. It was a failure. The weight given in the SCWC (22.72 g, .750 fine) cannot be correct; we have used the weight of a [[Austria 1767-ICSK thaler Dav-1115|Maria Theresia thaler]], which this coin strongly resembles.
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This specimen was lot 364 in Künker sale 293 (Osnabrück, Germany, July 2017), where it sold for €3,800 (about US$5,122 including buyer's fees). The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''PREUSSEN, KÖNIGREICH Friedrich II. der Große, 1740-1786. Levantetaler 1767, Berlin oder Magdeburg. Handelsmünze. R Sehr schön-vorzüglich. Auch die jüngere numismatische Forschung konnte nicht klären, ob diese Handelsmünze in Berlin oder Magdeburg geprägt wurde.'' ([[Germany]], kingdom of Prussia, Frederick II (the Great), 1740-86, Levant thaler of 1767, Berlin or Magdeburg mints. Scarce, very fine to extremely fine. The most recent research still cannot determine whether this thaler was minted in Berlin or Magdeburg.)"</blockquote> The Prussian thaler was too light and debased to circulate outside her boundaries. This issue may have been an experiment to create an internationally acceptable coin. It was a failure. The weight given in the SCWC (22.72 g, 0.750 fine) cannot be correct; we have used the weight of a [[Austria 1767-ICSK thaler Dav-1115|Maria Theresia thaler]], which this coin strongly resembles.
  
 
''Recorded mintage:'' est. 72.
 
''Recorded mintage:'' est. 72.
  
''Specification:'' 28.06 g, .833 fine silver.  
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''Specification:'' 28.06 g, 0.833 fine silver.  
  
''Catalog reference:'' [[Silver crowns by Davenport number|Dav-2595]], Old. 371; Kluge 320.2, KM-317.  
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''Catalog reference:'' [[Silver crowns by Davenport number|Dav-2595]], Olding 371; Kluge 320.2, KM-317.  
  
 
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* [[Prussia 1767-B 1/2 thaler|1767-B half thaler]]
 
* [[Prussia 1767-B 1/2 thaler|1767-B half thaler]]
 
* [[Austria 1767-ICSK thaler Dav-1115]]
 
* [[Austria 1767-ICSK thaler Dav-1115]]
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* [[Prussia 1767-A thaler Dav-2586|1767-A thaler]]
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* [[Prussia 1767-B thaler Dav-2586|1767-B thaler]]
 
* [[Prussia 1767 thaler Dav-2596|1767 "Levant" thaler]]
 
* [[Prussia 1767 thaler Dav-2596|1767 "Levant" thaler]]
 
* [[Prussia 1767 thaler Dav-2594|1767 "Albertus" thaler]]
 
* [[Prussia 1767 thaler Dav-2594|1767 "Albertus" thaler]]

Latest revision as of 14:08, 19 September 2025

Künker sale 293, lot 364

This specimen was lot 364 in Künker sale 293 (Osnabrück, Germany, July 2017), where it sold for €3,800 (about US$5,122 including buyer's fees). The catalog description[1] noted,

"PREUSSEN, KÖNIGREICH Friedrich II. der Große, 1740-1786. Levantetaler 1767, Berlin oder Magdeburg. Handelsmünze. R Sehr schön-vorzüglich. Auch die jüngere numismatische Forschung konnte nicht klären, ob diese Handelsmünze in Berlin oder Magdeburg geprägt wurde. (Germany, kingdom of Prussia, Frederick II (the Great), 1740-86, Levant thaler of 1767, Berlin or Magdeburg mints. Scarce, very fine to extremely fine. The most recent research still cannot determine whether this thaler was minted in Berlin or Magdeburg.)"

The Prussian thaler was too light and debased to circulate outside her boundaries. This issue may have been an experiment to create an internationally acceptable coin. It was a failure. The weight given in the SCWC (22.72 g, 0.750 fine) cannot be correct; we have used the weight of a Maria Theresia thaler, which this coin strongly resembles.

Recorded mintage: est. 72.

Specification: 28.06 g, 0.833 fine silver.

Catalog reference: Dav-2595, Olding 371; Kluge 320.2, KM-317.

Source:

  • Michael, Thomas, Standard Catalog of World Coins, 1701-1800, 7th ed., Iola, WI: Krause Publications, 2016.
  • Davenport, John S., German Talers, 1700-1800, 2nd Ed., London: Spink & Son, 1965.
  • [1]Künker Münzauktionen und Goldhandel, Katalog 293: Münzen aus Mittelalter und Neuzeit u. a. die westfälischen Privatsammlungen Werner Bröker und Bernd Terletzki, Osnabrück: Fritz Rudolf Künker GmbH & Co., AG, 2017.

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