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		<title>LatinKing2020 at 20:36, 29 April 2026</title>
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		<title>LatinKing2020: Created page with &quot;Künker Auction 441, lot 4486  This specimen was lot 4486 in Künker sale 441 (Osnabrück, March 2026), where it sold for €1,400 (about U...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/index.php/File:K441-4486.jpg&quot; title=&quot;File:K441-4486.jpg&quot;&gt;550px|thumb|Künker Auction 441, lot 4486&lt;/a&gt;  This specimen was lot 4486 in Künker sale 441 (Osnabrück, March 2026), where it sold for €1,400 (about U...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Image:K441-4486.jpg|550px|thumb|Künker Auction 441, lot 4486]]&lt;br /&gt;
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This specimen was lot 4486 in Künker sale 441 (Osnabrück, March 2026), where it sold for €1,400 (about US$1,926 including buyer's fees). The catalog description&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[1]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; noted, &amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;''SACHSEN, HERZOGTUM (Ernestiner nach dem Verlust der Kurwürde) Johann Friedrich II., 1557-1567, gestorben 1595 in Gefangenschaft. Taler 1558, Saalfeld. R Sehr schön. Exemplar der Auktion Gerhard Hirsch XLIV, München 1965, Nr. 799.'' ([[German States, Saxe-Gotha|duchy of Saxony]], Ernestine line after the loss of the electoral cap, John Frederick II, 1557-67, died in captivity 1595, thaler of 1558, Saalfeld mint. Rare, very fine.)&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt; In 1554, the Ernestine possessions were divided into Saxe-Eisenach and Saxe-Coburg (John Frederick II, shown here), Saxe-Weimar (John William) and Saxe-Gotha (John Frederick III). John Frederick II was imprisoned by the emperor and John Frederick III died without heirs, forcing a reshuffle of the Saxon duchies. The division of Erfurt in 1572 made permanent the partitioning of ducal Saxony into fragments. Until then, the head of the family (John Frederick II in this case) issued coins for all the branches; after that, each line issued its own. This type, struck 1558-59, is considerably scarcer than [[Saxe-Old-Gotha (15)58 thaler Dav-9753|Dav-9753]] (obverse legend &amp;quot;D:G:IOAN:FRIDE: SECVNDVS:DVX:SAXO:&amp;quot;), struck 1558-66.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Recorded mintage'': unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Specification'': silver, this specimen 28,65 g.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Catalog reference:'' KM MB388, [[Silver crowns by Davenport number|Dav-9751]]; Koppe 288 a; Schnee 157. &lt;br /&gt;
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''[[Bibliography|Sources:]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
* Craig, William D., ''[[Germany|Germanic]] Coinages: Charlemagne through Wilhelm II,'' Mountain View, CA: 1954.&lt;br /&gt;
* Davenport, John S., ''German Talers, 1500-1600,'' Frankfurt am Main, Numismatischer Verlag P. N. Schulten, 1979.&lt;br /&gt;
* Nicol, N. Douglas, Cuhaj, George S., and Thomas Michael, ''Standard Catalog of German Coins, 1501-Present, 3rd ed.,'' Iola, WI: Krause Publications, 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
* Gernot Schnee, ''Sächsiche Taler, 1500-1800,'' Frankfurt Am Main, P. N. Schulten, 1982.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[1]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Künker, Fritz Rudolf, Horst-Rudiger Künker, Ulrich Künker and Andreas Kaiser, ''Frühjahrs-Auktion 441: Orders and Decorations from the Estate of Wilhelm, Duke of Bavaria (1752–1837), among others | Coins and Medals from the Middle Ages and Modern times, particularly Denmark, Habsburg, Norway, and Saxony,'' Osnabrück: Fritz Rudolf Künker GmbH &amp;amp; Co., AG, 2026.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Links:''&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Saxe-Old Gotha (1554-57) thaler Dav-9745|(1554-57) thaler, joint issue]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Saxe-Old Gotha (1554-57) thaler Dav-9746|(1554-57) thaler, joint issue]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Saxe-Old-Gotha (15)58 thaler Dav-9753|(15)58 thaler, &amp;quot;D:G:IOAN:FRIDE:SECVNDVS:DVX:SAXO:&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Saxony 1558-HB thaler Dav-9795|1558-HB thaler, August I]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Saxe-Old-Gotha (15)61 schreckenberger|(15)61 schreckenberger]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Saxe-Old-Gotha (15)61 thaler Dav-9753|(15)61 thaler, &amp;quot;D:G:IOAN:FRIDE:SECVNDVS:DVX:SAXO:&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Coins and currency dated 1558]]&lt;br /&gt;
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