Prussia 1767 thaler Dav-2594 - Revision history

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[[Image:Prussia K293-365.jpg|550px|thumb|Künker sale 293, lot 365]]

This specimen was lot 365 in Künker sale 293 (Osnabruck, Germany, July 2017), where it sold for €5,000 (about US$6,739 including buyer's fees). The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''PREUSSEN, KÖNIGREICH Friedrich II. der Große, 1740-1786. Albertustaler (Bancotaler) 1767, ohne Münzzeichen, Berlin. Geharnischtes Brustbild r. mit Ordensband, Kreuz und umgelegtem Mantel//Gekröntes, 41feldiges Wappen mit aufgelegtem Andreaskreuz, umher: NACH DEM FVS DER ALBERTVS THALER 1767. RR Feine Patina, winz. Schrötlingsfehler und Kratzer, vorzüglich. Die Albertustaler wurden 1766 in Magdeburg und 1767 in Berlin geprägt. Die Prägung erfolgte nach dem Vorbild der holländischen Albertustaler für den Handel mit Osteuropa, insbesondere mit den Städten an der Ostsee.'' (kingdom of Prussia, Frederick II (the Great), 1740-86, "Albertus thaler" of 1767 without mintmark, Berlin mint. Obverse: armored, mantled bust right with order ribbon and cross; reverse: crowned 14-fold arms surcharged with a St. Andrew's cross, legend around. Rare, fine toning, minor rim defects and scratches, extremely fine. The Albertustaler were coined in Magdeburg in 1766 and in Berlin in 1767. The dies were modeled on the Dutch Albertustaler for trade with Eastern Europe, in particular with the cities on the Baltic Sea.)"</blockquote> The Prussian thaler was too light and debased to circulate outside her boundaries. This issue may have been an experiment to create an internationally acceptable coin. It was a failure. The weight given in the SCWC (22.72 g, .750 fine) cannot be correct.

''Recorded mintage:'' unknown.

''Specification:'' 28.06 g, .868 fine silver, this specimen 28.29 g.

''Catalog reference:'' [[Silver crowns by Davenport number|Dav-2594]], Old. 373; Kluge 322.2, KM-317.

''[[Bibliography|Source:]]''
* Michael, Thomas, ''Standard Catalog of World Coins, 1701-1800, 7th ed.,'' Iola, WI: Krause Publications, 2016.
* Davenport, John S., ''German Talers, 1700-1800, 2nd Ed.,'' London: Spink & Son, 1965.
* <sup>[1]</sup>Künker Münzauktionen und Goldhandel, ''Katalog 293: Münzen aus Mittelalter und Neuzeit u. a. die westfälischen Privatsammlungen Werner Bröker und Bernd Terletzki,'' Osnabrück: Fritz Rudolf Künker GmbH & Co., AG, 2017.

''Link to:''
* [[Prussia 1765-A thaler Dav-2586|1765-A thaler]]
* [[Prussia 1765-C thaler Dav-2589|1765-C thaler]]
* [[Prussia 1765-A thaler Dav-2593|1765-A "banco" thaler]]
* [[Prussia 1767 thaler Dav-2595|1767 "Levant" thaler]]
* [[Prussia 1767-A 2 friedrichs d'or Fr-2405|1767-A ''doppelter friedrichs d'or'']]
* [[Prussia 1797 thaler Dav-2601|1797 "Albertus" thaler]]
* [[Coins and currency dated 1767]]
* return to coins of [[German States, Prussia]]

[[Category:Selections from Kunker sale 293, 294]][[Category:Silver thalers of Germany]]

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 [[Image:Prussia K293-365.jpg|550px|thumb|Künker sale 293, lot 365]]
-This specimen was lot 365 in Künker sale 293 (Osnabruck, Germany, July 2017), where it sold for €5,000 (about US$6,739 including buyer's fees). The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''PREUSSEN, KÖNIGREICH Friedrich II. der Große, 1740-1786. Albertustaler (Bancotaler) 1767, ohne Münzzeichen, Berlin. Geharnischtes Brustbild r. mit Ordensband, Kreuz und umgelegtem Mantel//Gekröntes, 41feldiges Wappen mit aufgelegtem Andreaskreuz, umher: NACH DEM FVS DER ALBERTVS THALER 1767. RR Feine Patina, winz. Schrötlingsfehler und Kratzer, vorzüglich. Die Albertustaler wurden 1766 in Magdeburg und 1767 in Berlin geprägt. Die Prägung erfolgte nach dem Vorbild der holländischen Albertustaler für den Handel mit Osteuropa, insbesondere mit den Städten an der Ostsee.'' ([[Germany]], kingdom of Prussia, Frederick II (the Great), 1740-86, "Albertus thaler" of 1767 without mintmark, Berlin mint. Obverse: armored, mantled bust right with order ribbon and cross; reverse: crowned 14-fold arms surcharged with a St. Andrew's cross, legend around. Rare, fine toning, minor rim defects and scratches, extremely fine. The Albertustaler were coined in Magdeburg in 1766 and in Berlin in 1767. The dies were modeled on the Dutch Albertustaler for trade with Eastern Europe, in particular with the cities on the Baltic Sea.)"</blockquote> The Prussian thaler was too light and debased to circulate outside her boundaries. This issue may have been an experiment to create an internationally acceptable coin. It was a failure. The weight given in the SCWC (22.72 g, 0.750 fine) cannot be correct.
+This specimen was lot 365 in Künker sale 293 (Osnabrück, Germany, July 2017), where it sold for €5,000 (about US$6,739 including buyer's fees). The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''PREUSSEN, KÖNIGREICH Friedrich II. der Große, 1740-1786. Albertustaler (Bancotaler) 1767, ohne Münzzeichen, Berlin. Geharnischtes Brustbild r. mit Ordensband, Kreuz und umgelegtem Mantel//Gekröntes, 41feldiges Wappen mit aufgelegtem Andreaskreuz, umher: NACH DEM FVS DER ALBERTVS THALER 1767. RR Feine Patina, winz. Schrötlingsfehler und Kratzer, vorzüglich. Die Albertustaler wurden 1766 in Magdeburg und 1767 in Berlin geprägt. Die Prägung erfolgte nach dem Vorbild der holländischen Albertustaler für den Handel mit Osteuropa, insbesondere mit den Städten an der Ostsee.'' ([[Germany]], kingdom of Prussia, Frederick II (the Great), 1740-86, "Albertus thaler" of 1767 without mintmark, Berlin mint. Obverse: armored, mantled bust right with order ribbon and cross; reverse: crowned 14-fold arms surcharged with a St. Andrew's cross, legend around. Rare, fine toning, minor rim defects and scratches, extremely fine. The Albertustaler were coined in Magdeburg in 1766 and in Berlin in 1767. The dies were modeled on the Dutch Albertustaler for trade with Eastern Europe, in particular with the cities on the Baltic Sea.)"</blockquote> The Prussian thaler was too light and debased to circulate outside her boundaries. This issue may have been an experiment to create an internationally acceptable coin. It was a failure. The weight given in the SCWC (22.72 g, 0.750 fine) cannot be correct.
 ''Recorded mintage:'' unknown.

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 ''Specification:'' 28.06 g, 0.868 fine silver, this specimen 28.29 g.
-''Catalog reference:'' [[Silver crowns by Davenport number|Dav-2594]], Old. 373; Kluge 322.2, KM-317.
+''Catalog reference:'' [[Silver crowns by Davenport number|Dav-2594]], Olding 373; Kluge 322.2, KM-317.
 ''[[Bibliography|Source:]]''

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 [[Image:Prussia K293-365.jpg|550px|thumb|Künker sale 293, lot 365]]
-This specimen was lot 365 in Künker sale 293 (Osnabruck, Germany, July 2017), where it sold for €5,000 (about US$6,739 including buyer's fees). The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''PREUSSEN, KÖNIGREICH Friedrich II. der Große, 1740-1786. Albertustaler (Bancotaler) 1767, ohne Münzzeichen, Berlin. Geharnischtes Brustbild r. mit Ordensband, Kreuz und umgelegtem Mantel//Gekröntes, 41feldiges Wappen mit aufgelegtem Andreaskreuz, umher: NACH DEM FVS DER ALBERTVS THALER 1767. RR Feine Patina, winz. Schrötlingsfehler und Kratzer, vorzüglich. Die Albertustaler wurden 1766 in Magdeburg und 1767 in Berlin geprägt. Die Prägung erfolgte nach dem Vorbild der holländischen Albertustaler für den Handel mit Osteuropa, insbesondere mit den Städten an der Ostsee.'' ([[Germany]], kingdom of Prussia, Frederick II (the Great), 1740-86, "Albertus thaler" of 1767 without mintmark, Berlin mint. Obverse: armored, mantled bust right with order ribbon and cross; reverse: crowned 14-fold arms surcharged with a St. Andrew's cross, legend around. Rare, fine toning, minor rim defects and scratches, extremely fine. The Albertustaler were coined in Magdeburg in 1766 and in Berlin in 1767. The dies were modeled on the Dutch Albertustaler for trade with Eastern Europe, in particular with the cities on the Baltic Sea.)"</blockquote> The Prussian thaler was too light and debased to circulate outside her boundaries. This issue may have been an experiment to create an internationally acceptable coin. It was a failure. The weight given in the SCWC (22.72 g, .750 fine) cannot be correct.
+This specimen was lot 365 in Künker sale 293 (Osnabruck, Germany, July 2017), where it sold for €5,000 (about US$6,739 including buyer's fees). The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''PREUSSEN, KÖNIGREICH Friedrich II. der Große, 1740-1786. Albertustaler (Bancotaler) 1767, ohne Münzzeichen, Berlin. Geharnischtes Brustbild r. mit Ordensband, Kreuz und umgelegtem Mantel//Gekröntes, 41feldiges Wappen mit aufgelegtem Andreaskreuz, umher: NACH DEM FVS DER ALBERTVS THALER 1767. RR Feine Patina, winz. Schrötlingsfehler und Kratzer, vorzüglich. Die Albertustaler wurden 1766 in Magdeburg und 1767 in Berlin geprägt. Die Prägung erfolgte nach dem Vorbild der holländischen Albertustaler für den Handel mit Osteuropa, insbesondere mit den Städten an der Ostsee.'' ([[Germany]], kingdom of Prussia, Frederick II (the Great), 1740-86, "Albertus thaler" of 1767 without mintmark, Berlin mint. Obverse: armored, mantled bust right with order ribbon and cross; reverse: crowned 14-fold arms surcharged with a St. Andrew's cross, legend around. Rare, fine toning, minor rim defects and scratches, extremely fine. The Albertustaler were coined in Magdeburg in 1766 and in Berlin in 1767. The dies were modeled on the Dutch Albertustaler for trade with Eastern Europe, in particular with the cities on the Baltic Sea.)"</blockquote> The Prussian thaler was too light and debased to circulate outside her boundaries. This issue may have been an experiment to create an internationally acceptable coin. It was a failure. The weight given in the SCWC (22.72 g, 0.750 fine) cannot be correct.
 ''Recorded mintage:'' unknown.

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 * [[Prussia 1765-C thaler Dav-2589|1765-C thaler]]
 * [[Prussia 1765-A thaler Dav-2593|1765-A "banco" thaler]]
 * [[Prussia 1767 thaler Dav-2595|1767 "Levant" thaler]]
 * [[Prussia 1767-A 2 friedrichs d'or Fr-2405|1767-A ''doppelter friedrichs d'or'']]