Prussia 1718-HFH thaler Dav-2571 - Revision history

Silvergeek at 05:05, 22 May 2026

2026-05-22T05:05:13Z

Silvergeek: As stated in kunker these were found to be from Berlin as he was working there those years for these coins from what they found and as the biggest auction house for German coins in Germany I trust what they found over Krause which is not that good for German only good as a baseline to do more research on.

2026-05-22T05:04:45Z

As stated in kunker these were found to be from Berlin as he was working there those years for these coins from what they found and as the biggest auction house for German coins in Germany I trust what they found over Krause which is not that good for German only good as a baseline to do more research on.

Silvergeek at 03:29, 21 April 2026

2026-04-21T03:29:00Z

Silvergeek: sorry forgot to add bottom since there are 2 segments right

2026-04-21T03:26:20Z

sorry forgot to add bottom since there are 2 segments right

LatinKing2020: added map

2026-04-21T03:19:37Z

added map

LatinKing2020: revised notes

2026-04-21T02:38:12Z

revised notes

LatinKing2020: Text replacement - "Prussia 1718-HFH 1/2 thaler" to "Prussia 1719-HFH 1/2 thaler"

2026-04-21T02:28:09Z

Text replacement - "Prussia 1718-HFH 1/2 thaler" to "Prussia 1719-HFH 1/2 thaler"

LatinKing2020: Text replacement - "Prussia 1718-HFH 1/2 thaler|1718" to "Prussia 1719-HFH 1/2 thaler|1719"

2026-04-21T02:23:31Z

Text replacement - "Prussia 1718-HFH 1/2 thaler|1718" to "Prussia 1719-HFH 1/2 thaler|1719"

Silvergeek at 01:16, 21 April 2026

2026-04-21T01:16:49Z

Silvergeek at 00:12, 21 April 2026

2026-04-21T00:12:12Z

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 * [[Prussia 1717-IFS ducat Fr-2340|1717-IFS ducat]]
 * [[Prussia 1718-HFH 1/12 thaler KM-124|1718-HFH 1/12 thaler, Magdeburg mint]]
-* [[Prussia 1719-HFH 1/2 thaler|1719-HFH half thaler, Betlin mint]]
+* [[Prussia 1719-HFH 1/2 thaler|1719-HFH half thaler, Berlin mint]]
 * [[Prussia 1718-HFH 2/3 thaler KM-154|1718-HFH ⅔ thaler, Magdeburg mint, 12-fold arms]]
 * [[Prussia 1718-HFH 2/3 thaler KM-170|1718-HFH ⅔ thaler, Magdeburg mint, 13 fold arms]]

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 * [[Prussia 1717-IFS ducat Fr-2340|1717-IFS ducat]]
 * [[Prussia 1718-HFH 1/12 thaler KM-124|1718-HFH 1/12 thaler, Magdeburg mint]]
-* [[Prussia 1719-HFH 1/2 thaler|1719-HFH half thaler, Magdeburg mint]]
+* [[Prussia 1719-HFH 1/2 thaler|1719-HFH half thaler, Betlin mint]]
 * [[Prussia 1718-HFH 2/3 thaler KM-154|1718-HFH ⅔ thaler, Magdeburg mint, 12-fold arms]]
 * [[Prussia 1718-HFH 2/3 thaler KM-170|1718-HFH ⅔ thaler, Magdeburg mint, 13 fold arms]]
 * [[Prussia 1719-CG 6 groscher|1719-CG 6 groscher, Königsberg mint]]
-* [[Prussia 1719-HFH 1/16 thaler|1719-HFH 1/16 thaler, Magdeburg mint]]
+* [[Prussia 1719-HFH 1/16 thaler|1719-HFH 1/16 thaler, Berlin mint]]
-* [[Prussia 1719-HFH 1/8 thaler|1719-HFH 1/8 thaler, Magdeburg mint]]
+* [[Prussia 1719-HFH 1/8 thaler|1719-HFH 1/8 thaler, Berlin mint]]
-* [[Prussia 1719-HFH 1/4 thaler|1719-HFH quarter thaler, Magdeburg mint]]
+* [[Prussia 1719-HFH 1/4 thaler|1719-HFH quarter thaler, Berlin mint]]
 * [[Prussia 1719-IGN 2/3 thaler|1719-IGN ⅔ thaler]]
 * [[Prussia 1719-IGN thaler Dav-2573|1719-IGN thaler]]

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 ''Reverse''
-*Reverse description: Crowned four-fold shield with inescutcheon (Hohenzollern scepter top left; County of Horne Horn top right; Neuchâtel three chevrons bottom left; Gueldrian opposing lions bottom right; Prussian eagle as inestucheon middle), crown divides date above and shield divides mint master's initials at the middle.
+*Reverse description: Crowned four-fold shield with inescutcheon (Hohenzollern scepter top left; County of Horne Horn top right; Neuchâtel three chevrons bottom left; Gueldrian opposing lions bottom right; Prussian eagle in crowned inestucheon middle), crown divides date above and shield divides mint master's initials at the middle.
 *Reverse inscription: 1718 / H·F· H·
 *Reverse inscription unabridged: 1718 / Heinrich Friedrich Halter

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 ''Reverse''
-*Reverse description: Crowned four-fold shield with inescutcheon (Hohenzollern scepter top left; County of Horne Horn top right; Neuchâtel three chevrons bottom left; Gueldrian opposing lions right; Prussian eagle as inestucheon middle), crown divides date above and shield divides mint master's initials at the middle.
+*Reverse description: Crowned four-fold shield with inescutcheon (Hohenzollern scepter top left; County of Horne Horn top right; Neuchâtel three chevrons bottom left; Gueldrian opposing lions bottom right; Prussian eagle as inestucheon middle), crown divides date above and shield divides mint master's initials at the middle.
 *Reverse inscription: 1718 / H·F· H·
 *Reverse inscription unabridged: 1718 / Heinrich Friedrich Halter

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	[[Image:Prussia K293-329.jpg\|550px\|thumb\|Künker sale 293, lot 329]]		[[Image:Prussia K293-329.jpg\|550px\|thumb\|Künker sale 293, lot 329]]
		+	[[Image:Upper Gelderland 1789.jpg\|550px\|thumb\|Upper Gelderland in 1789, from Hammond's atlas]]

	This specimen was lot 329 in Künker sale 293 (Osnabrück, Germany, July 2017), where it sold for €3,800 (about US$5,122 including buyer's fees). The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''PREUSSEN, KÖNIGREICH Friedrich Wilhelm I. der Soldatenkönig, 1713-1740. Reichstaler 1718, HFH, Berlin, für das Herzogtum Geldern. RR Feine Tönung, kl. Schrötlingsfehler, fast vorzüglich. Das Münzmeisterzeichen des vorliegenden Reichstalers läßt eigentlich darauf schließen, daß dieses Stück in Magdeburg geprägt worden ist. Von Schrötter schreibt jedoch, daß Heinrich Friedrich Halter die Münzen für das Herzogtum Geldern in Berlin gemünzt hat.'' ([[Germany]], kingdom of Prussia, Frederick William I, the Soldier King, 1713-40, thaler of 1718, Berlin mint, for the duchy of Geldern. Rare, fine toning, light hairlines, about extremely fine. The coin-master's mark shown on the present thaler suggests that this piece was coined in Magdeburg. Von Schrotter, however, writes that Heinrich Friedrich Halter minted them in Berlin.)"</blockquote>		This specimen was lot 329 in Künker sale 293 (Osnabrück, Germany, July 2017), where it sold for €3,800 (about US$5,122 including buyer's fees). The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''PREUSSEN, KÖNIGREICH Friedrich Wilhelm I. der Soldatenkönig, 1713-1740. Reichstaler 1718, HFH, Berlin, für das Herzogtum Geldern. RR Feine Tönung, kl. Schrötlingsfehler, fast vorzüglich. Das Münzmeisterzeichen des vorliegenden Reichstalers läßt eigentlich darauf schließen, daß dieses Stück in Magdeburg geprägt worden ist. Von Schrötter schreibt jedoch, daß Heinrich Friedrich Halter die Münzen für das Herzogtum Geldern in Berlin gemünzt hat.'' ([[Germany]], kingdom of Prussia, Frederick William I, the Soldier King, 1713-40, thaler of 1718, Berlin mint, for the duchy of Geldern. Rare, fine toning, light hairlines, about extremely fine. The coin-master's mark shown on the present thaler suggests that this piece was coined in Magdeburg. Von Schrotter, however, writes that Heinrich Friedrich Halter minted them in Berlin.)"</blockquote>

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 This rare one year type which was accompanied by [[Prussia 1719-HFH 1/16 thaler|a 1/16 thaler]], [[Prussia 1719-HFH 1/8 thaler|a 1/8 thaler]], [[Prussia 1719-HFH 1/4 thaler|a 1/4 thaler]], and [[Prussia 1719-HFH 1/2 thaler|a 1/2 thaler]] a year later, was the series was struck for Prussian Gelderland, a small province on the border with the Netherlands.
-History: After the death of Charles II of Spain in 1700, the War of Spanish Succession (1701-1714)  broke out due to the fact that Charles II had no children and the heir to the Spanish line of the Habsburgs and his lands were contested. In Charles’ will it states that Philip of Anjou was the heir and he was backed by his grandfather Louis XIV, king of France.
+After the death of Charles II of Spain in 1700, the War of Spanish Succession (1701-1714) broke out. Charles left the Spanish dominions to Philip of Anjou in his will in the hope that they would not be partitioned. In this, he was backed by Philip's grandfather, Louis XIV, king of France. The Grand Alliance (League of Augsburg) was an anti-French alliance made in 1689 and was made up of the Dutch Republic, England, and Austria which disbanded after the Nine Years war in 1697. This alliance was reformed prior to the War of Spanish Succession by the Treaty of the Hague in 1701 and included the same parties. All feared French dominance in Europe. In 1702, Prussia joined. At the signing of the Treaty of Utrecht, Prussia was rewarded with a section of Upper Guelders that was previously part of the Spanish Netherlands.
 ''Ruling Authorities''

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 This specimen was lot 329 in Künker sale 293 (Osnabrück, Germany, July 2017), where it sold for €3,800 (about US$5,122 including buyer's fees). The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''PREUSSEN, KÖNIGREICH Friedrich Wilhelm I. der Soldatenkönig, 1713-1740. Reichstaler 1718, HFH, Berlin, für das Herzogtum Geldern. RR Feine Tönung, kl. Schrötlingsfehler, fast vorzüglich. Das Münzmeisterzeichen des vorliegenden Reichstalers läßt eigentlich darauf schließen, daß dieses Stück in Magdeburg geprägt worden ist. Von Schrötter schreibt jedoch, daß Heinrich Friedrich Halter die Münzen für das Herzogtum Geldern in Berlin gemünzt hat.'' ([[Germany]], kingdom of Prussia, Frederick William I, the Soldier King, 1713-40, thaler of 1718, Berlin mint, for the duchy of Geldern. Rare, fine toning, light hairlines, about extremely fine. The coin-master's mark shown on the present thaler suggests that this piece was coined in Magdeburg. Von Schrotter, however, writes that Heinrich Friedrich Halter minted them in Berlin.)"</blockquote>
-This rare one year type which was accompanied by [[Prussia 1719-HFH 1/16 thaler|a 1/16 thaler]], [[Prussia 1719-HFH 1/8 thaler|a 1/8 thaler]], [[Prussia 1719-HFH 1/4 thaler|a 1/4 thaler]], and [[Prussia 1718-HFH 1/2 thaler|a 1/2 thaler]] a year later, was the series was struck for Prussian Gelderland, a small province on the border with the Netherlands.
+This rare one year type which was accompanied by [[Prussia 1719-HFH 1/16 thaler|a 1/16 thaler]], [[Prussia 1719-HFH 1/8 thaler|a 1/8 thaler]], [[Prussia 1719-HFH 1/4 thaler|a 1/4 thaler]], and [[Prussia 1719-HFH 1/2 thaler|a 1/2 thaler]] a year later, was the series was struck for Prussian Gelderland, a small province on the border with the Netherlands.
 History: After the death of Charles II of Spain in 1700, the War of Spanish Succession (1701-1714)  broke out due to the fact that Charles II had no children and the heir to the Spanish line of the Habsburgs and his lands were contested. In Charles’ will it states that Philip of Anjou was the heir and he was backed by his grandfather Louis XIV, king of France.

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	In 1702, Prussia joined the Grand Alliance to prevent French dominance. Towards the end of the War of the Spanish Succession, at the signing of the Treaty of Utrecht, Prussia got control over a section of Upper Guelders that was previously part of the Spanish Netherlands.		In 1702, Prussia joined the Grand Alliance to prevent French dominance. Towards the end of the War of the Spanish Succession, at the signing of the Treaty of Utrecht, Prussia got control over a section of Upper Guelders that was previously part of the Spanish Netherlands.
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		+	''Ruling Authorities''
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		+	* Friedrich Wilhelm I of Prussia, Duke of Prussian Gelderland from 1713-1740.
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		+	''Obverse''
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		+	*Obverse description: Bust facing right with engraver's initial at end of arm.
		+	*Obverse inscription: FRID·WILH·D:G·REX·BOR·EL·BR·DVX·GELDERIAE· / L
		+	*Obverse inscription unabridged: Fridericus Wilhelmus Dei Gratia Rex Borussiae Elector Brandenburgensis Dux Gelderiae / Lüders
		+	*Obverse inscription translated: Friedrich Wilhelm, by the Grace of God, King of Prussia, Elector of Brandenburg, Duke of Gelders / Lüders
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		+	''Reverse''
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		+	*Reverse description: Crowned four-fold shield with inescutcheon (Hohenzollern scepter top left; County of Horne Horn top right; Neuchâtel three chevrons bottom left; Gueldrian opposing lions right; Prussian eagle as inestucheon middle), crown divides date above and shield divides mint master's initials at the middle.
		+	*Reverse inscription: 1718 / H·F· H·
		+	*Reverse inscription unabridged: 1718 / Heinrich Friedrich Halter
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		+	'' Mintmarks/Mint:'' Berlin.
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		+	'' Mint Official Marks/Initials/Names:'' L = Christian Friedrich Lüders, engraver at Berlin from 1702-1742; HFH = Heinrich Friedrich Halter, mint master at Magdeburg from 1698-1721 and Berlin from 1718-1719.

	''Recorded mintage:'' unknown.		''Recorded mintage:'' unknown.

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 ''Recorded mintage:'' unknown.
-''Specification:'' silver.
+''Specification:'' 0.868 fine silver.
 ''Catalog reference:'' [[Silver crowns by Davenport number|Dav-2571]], v. Schr. 548, KM-173 (Prussia), KM-200 (Prussian Gelderland)