Mexico 1863-Oa AE 8 reales - Revision history

LatinKing2020: Text replacement - "* 1863-M^O pattern 10 centavos * [[Mexico 1863-SLP 10 centavos"

2025-11-17T19:22:47Z

Text replacement - "* [[Mexico 1863-SLP 10 centavos" to "* 1863-MO pattern 10 centavos * [[Mexico 1863-SLP 10 centavos"

LatinKing2020: Text replacement - "Mexico 1863-Mo CH 2 reales|1863-M^O 2 reales" to "Mexico 1863-Mo CH 2 reales|1863-M^O CH 2 reales"

2025-01-06T17:16:36Z

Text replacement - "Mexico 1863-Mo CH 2 reales|1863-MO 2 reales" to "Mexico 1863-Mo CH 2 reales|1863-MO CH 2 reales"

LatinKing2020: Text replacement - "* 1863-M^O TH 2 reales * [[Mexico 1863-Zs VL 2 reales"

2025-01-06T16:57:08Z

Text replacement - "* [[Mexico 1863-Zs VL 2 reales" to "* 1863-MO TH 2 reales * [[Mexico 1863-Zs VL 2 reales"

LatinKing2020: Text replacement - " .903 fine" to " 0.903 fine"

2023-12-13T00:43:41Z

Text replacement - " .903 fine" to " 0.903 fine"

LatinKing2020: added link

2023-11-23T23:17:10Z

added link

LatinKing2020 at 22:56, 23 November 2023

2023-11-23T22:56:13Z

LatinKing2020: added third specimen

2023-11-23T22:53:11Z

added third specimen

LatinKing2020 at 22:48, 23 November 2023

2023-11-23T22:48:30Z

LatinKing2020: Text replacement - "* 1863-M^O ½ real" to "* 1863-M^O CH ½ real * 1863-M^O TH ½ real"

2022-08-26T17:18:55Z

Text replacement - "* 1863-MO ½ real" to "* 1863-MO CH ½ real * 1863-MO TH ½ real"

LatinKing2020: Text replacement - "* 1863-Z^S 2 reales * [[Mexico 1863-Ce ML 4 reales"

2022-08-25T23:14:19Z

Text replacement - "* [[Mexico 1863-Ce ML 4 reales" to "* 1863-ZS 2 reales * [[Mexico 1863-Ce ML 4 reales"

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 * [[Mexico 1863/2-Mo CH real|1863-M<sup>O</sup> real]]
 * [[Mexico 1863-SLP 5 centavos|1863-SLP 5 centavos]]
 * [[Mexico 1863-SLP 10 centavos|1863-SLP 10 centavos]]
 * [[Mexico 1863-Ce ML 2 reales|1863-C<sup>E</sup> 2 reales]]

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 * [[Mexico 1863-SLP 10 centavos|1863-SLP 10 centavos]]
 * [[Mexico 1863-Ce ML 2 reales|1863-C<sup>E</sup> 2 reales]]
-* [[Mexico 1863-Mo CH 2 reales|1863-M<sup>O</sup> 2 reales]]
+* [[Mexico 1863-Mo CH 2 reales|1863-M<sup>O</sup> CH 2 reales]]
 * [[Mexico 1863-Mo TH 2 reales|1863-M<sup>O</sup> TH 2 reales]]
 * [[Mexico 1863-Zs VL 2 reales|1863-Z<sup>S</sup> 2 reales]]

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 * [[Mexico 1863-Ce ML 2 reales|1863-C<sup>E</sup> 2 reales]]
 * [[Mexico 1863-Mo CH 2 reales|1863-M<sup>O</sup> 2 reales]]
 * [[Mexico 1863-Zs VL 2 reales|1863-Z<sup>S</sup> 2 reales]]
 * [[Mexico 1863-Ce ML 4 reales|1863-C<sup>E</sup> 4 reales]]

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 ''Recorded mintage:'' unknown.
-''Specification:'' 27.07 g, .903 fine silver, .786 troy oz ASW, the first specimen: 26.87 grams.
+''Specification:'' 27.07 g, 0.903 fine silver, .786 troy oz ASW, the first specimen: 26.87 grams.
 ''Catalog reference:'' WR-63; Eliz-773; DP-Oa11, KM 377.11. The second and third specimens are DP-Oa10 (A within O mintmark).

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 * [[Mexico 1863-Mo TH 8 reales|1863-M<sup>O</sup> TH 8 reales]]
 * [[Mexico 1863-O FR 8 reales|1863-O FR 8 reales]]
 * [[Mexico 1863-Zs MO 8 reales|1863-Z<sup>S</sup> MO 8 reales]]
 * [[Mexico 1863-Zs VL 8 reales|1863-Z<sup>S</sup> VL 8 reales]]

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 [[Image:SB823-21343.jpg|550px|thumb|from the Stack's Bowers 2019 ANA sale, lot 21343]]
-The first specimen was lot 1128 in Goldberg sale 46 (Beverly Hills, May 2008), where it sold for $6,250. The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, "[[Mexico]] - Republic. 8 Reales, 1863-Oa-AE (Oaxaca). Cap & Rays type. Eagle and snake on cactus. Reverse: Liberty Cap, with rays behind. An excellent strike, although some adjustment marks are evident on the reverse. Lustrous and very clean, with light to medium toning. Choice and very impressive. A classic rarity of the series. NGC graded MS-63." The second specimen was lot 11230 in Ponterio sale 169 (Baltimore, November 2012), where it sold for $3,290. The catalog description<sup>[3]</sup> noted, "MEXICO. 8 Reales, 1863/8-OaAE. NGC AU-50. VERY RARE. "A" within "O" mintmark. Lightly toned." The third specimen was lot 21343 in Stack's Bowers ANA sale (Chicago, August 2019), where it sold for $5,400. The catalog description<sup>[4]</sup> noted, "MEXICO. 8 Reales, 1863/8-OA AE. Oaxaca Mint. Republic. NGC MS-63+. A in O mintmark. Our first offering of this RARE date, the present piece. Dunigan and Parker (p. 329) explain how this coin is an 1863/8, not 1868/3. Sharply struck and very lustrous, with some evidence of planchet streaking on the reverse. For completeness, some concentrated scuffs are noted above the '8R.'Assayer FR is also recorded for this date. Dunigan<sup>[2]</sup> poses the theory that two different mints were operating in Oaxaca for the early years (1858-63), accounting for the bewildering variety of die styles and mintmarks.
+The first specimen was lot 1128 in Goldberg sale 46 (Beverly Hills, May 2008), where it sold for $6,250. The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, "[[Mexico]] - Republic. 8 Reales, 1863-Oa-AE (Oaxaca). Cap & Rays type. Eagle and snake on cactus. Reverse: Liberty Cap, with rays behind. An excellent strike, although some adjustment marks are evident on the reverse. Lustrous and very clean, with light to medium toning. Choice and very impressive. A classic rarity of the series. NGC graded MS-63." The second specimen was lot 11230 in Ponterio sale 169 (Baltimore, November 2012), where it sold for $3,290. The catalog description<sup>[3]</sup> noted, "MEXICO. 8 Reales, 1863/8-OaAE. NGC AU-50. VERY RARE. "A" within "O" mintmark. Lightly toned." The third specimen was lot 21343 in Stack's Bowers ANA sale (Chicago, August 2019), where it sold for $5,400. The catalog description<sup>[4]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"MEXICO. 8 Reales, 1863/8-OA AE. Oaxaca Mint. Republic. NGC MS-63+. A in O mintmark. Our first offering of this RARE date, the present piece. Dunigan and Parker (p. 329) explain how this coin is an 1863/8, not 1868/3. Sharply struck and very lustrous, with some evidence of planchet streaking on the reverse. For completeness, some concentrated scuffs are noted above the '8R.'"</blockquote> Assayer FR is also recorded for this date. Dunigan<sup>[2]</sup> poses the theory that two different mints were operating in Oaxaca for the early years (1858-63), accounting for the bewildering variety of die styles and mintmarks.
 The year 1863 presents many varieties from the Oaxaca mint. Dunigan and Parker<sup>[2]</sup> list "O 1863 FR" (Oa09), "'a' within 'O' 1863 AE" (Oa10), "'a' over 'O' 1863 AE" (Oa11) and "O 1863 AE" (Oa12). This example is the third and rarest variety. The authors theorize that two mints were operating in the same town simultaneously, accounting for the variations in mintmark and die styles. The Oaxaca mint (or mints) operated 1858-93. Assayer AE, recorded intermittently between 1858 and 1890, was Agustin Edner. In the 1860's, the mint was leased to the state of Oaxaca.

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 [[Image:Mexico 1863Oa 8 reales obv Ponterio 169-11230.jpg|300px|thumb|Ponterio sale 169, lot 11230]]
 [[Image:Mexico 1863Oa 8 reales rev Ponterio 169-11230.jpg|300px|thumb|photo courtesy Stacks-Bowers LLC]]
-The first specimen was lot 1128 in Goldberg sale 46 (Beverly Hills, May 2008), where it sold for $6,250. The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, "[[Mexico]] - Republic. 8 Reales, 1863-Oa-AE (Oaxaca). Cap & Rays type. Eagle and snake on cactus. Reverse: Liberty Cap, with rays behind. An excellent strike, although some adjustment marks are evident on the reverse. Lustrous and very clean, with light to medium toning. Choice and very impressive. A classic rarity of the series. NGC graded MS-63." The second specimen was lot 11230 in Ponterio sale 169 (Baltimore, November 2012), where it sold for $3,290. The catalog description<sup>[3]</sup> noted, "MEXICO. 8 Reales, 1863/8-OaAE. NGC AU-50. VERY RARE. "A" within "O" mintmark. Lightly toned." Assayer FR is also recorded for this date. Dunigan<sup>[2]</sup> poses the theory that two different mints were operating in Oaxaca for the early years (1858-63), accounting for the bewildering variety of die styles and mintmarks.
+The first specimen was lot 1128 in Goldberg sale 46 (Beverly Hills, May 2008), where it sold for $6,250. The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, "[[Mexico]] - Republic. 8 Reales, 1863-Oa-AE (Oaxaca). Cap & Rays type. Eagle and snake on cactus. Reverse: Liberty Cap, with rays behind. An excellent strike, although some adjustment marks are evident on the reverse. Lustrous and very clean, with light to medium toning. Choice and very impressive. A classic rarity of the series. NGC graded MS-63." The second specimen was lot 11230 in Ponterio sale 169 (Baltimore, November 2012), where it sold for $3,290. The catalog description<sup>[3]</sup> noted, "MEXICO. 8 Reales, 1863/8-OaAE. NGC AU-50. VERY RARE. "A" within "O" mintmark. Lightly toned." The third specimen was lot 21343 in Stack's Bowers ANA sale (Chicago, August 2019), where it sold for $5,400. The catalog description<sup>[4]</sup> noted, "MEXICO. 8 Reales, 1863/8-OA AE. Oaxaca Mint. Republic. NGC MS-63+. A in O mintmark. Our first offering of this RARE date, the present piece. Dunigan and Parker (p. 329) explain how this coin is an 1863/8, not 1868/3. Sharply struck and very lustrous, with some evidence of planchet streaking on the reverse. For completeness, some concentrated scuffs are noted above the '8R.'Assayer FR is also recorded for this date. Dunigan<sup>[2]</sup> poses the theory that two different mints were operating in Oaxaca for the early years (1858-63), accounting for the bewildering variety of die styles and mintmarks.
 The year 1863 presents many varieties from the Oaxaca mint. Dunigan and Parker<sup>[2]</sup> list "O 1863 FR" (Oa09), "'a' within 'O' 1863 AE" (Oa10), "'a' over 'O' 1863 AE" (Oa11) and "O 1863 AE" (Oa12). This example is the third and rarest variety. The authors theorize that two mints were operating in the same town simultaneously, accounting for the variations in mintmark and die styles. The Oaxaca mint (or mints) operated 1858-93. Assayer AE, recorded intermittently between 1858 and 1890, was Agustin Edner. In the 1860's, the mint was leased to the state of Oaxaca.
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 ''Recorded mintage:'' unknown.
-''Specification:'' 27.07 g, .903 fine silver, .786 troy oz ASW, this specimen: 26.87 grams.
+''Specification:'' 27.07 g, .903 fine silver, .786 troy oz ASW, the first specimen: 26.87 grams.
-''Catalog reference:'' WR-63; Eliz-773; DP-Oa11, KM 377.11.
+''Catalog reference:'' WR-63; Eliz-773; DP-Oa11, KM 377.11. The second and third specimens are DP-Oa10 (A within O mintmark).
 ''[[Bibliography|Source:]]''
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 * Raymond, Wayte, ''The Silver Dollars of North and South America, 2nd Ed.,'' Racine, WI: Whitman Publishing, 1964.
 * <sup>[3]</sup>Ponterio, Richard, ''Ponterio sale 169: The November 2012 Baltimore Auction,'' Irvine, CA: Stack's Bowers, LLC, 2012.
 ''Link to:''
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 [[Category:Silver pesos of Mexico]][[Category:Selections from Ponterio sale 169]][[Category:Selections from the Millenia Collection]]

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 * [[Mexico 1863-Mo LR 1/4 real|1863-M<sup>O</sup> ¼ real]]
 * [[Mexico 1863-C CE 1/2 real|1863-C ½ real]]
-* [[Mexico 1863-Mo TH/GC 1/2 real|1863-M<sup>O</sup> ½ real]]
+* [[Mexico 1863-Mo CH 1/2 real|1863-M<sup>O</sup> CH ½ real]]
 * [[Mexico 1863/2-Mo CH real|1863-M<sup>O</sup> real]]
 * [[Mexico 1863-SLP 5 centavos|1863-SLP 5 centavos]]

Mexico 1863-Oa AE 8 reales - Revision history

LatinKing2020: Text replacement - "* 1863-MO pattern 10 centavos * [[Mexico 1863-SLP 10 centavos"

LatinKing2020: Text replacement - "Mexico 1863-Mo CH 2 reales|1863-MO 2 reales" to "Mexico 1863-Mo CH 2 reales|1863-MO CH 2 reales"

LatinKing2020: Text replacement - "* 1863-MO TH 2 reales * [[Mexico 1863-Zs VL 2 reales"