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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This specimen was lot 1502 in Jean Elsen sale 147 (Brussels, June 2021), where it sold for €220 (about US$322 including buyer's fees). The catalog description&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[1]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; noted, &amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;''FRANCE, Royaume, Charles VIII (1483-1498), billon liard au dauphin, 2e émission (octobre 1488), point 18e, Paris. D/ Dauphin à g. R/ Croix cantonnée de deux lis et de deux couronnelles. Rare dans cette qualité. Superbe.'' (kingdom of [[France]], Charles VIII, 1483-98, billon liard of the dauphin, second emission of October 1488, dot under the 18th letter, Paris mint. Obverse: dolphin left; reverse: cross cantonned with two crowns and two lilies. Rare in this quality, Extremely Fine.)&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt; These ''monnaies noires'' (black money), cheaply made, heavily counterfeited and frequently demonetized, were the bane of the poor who were forced to use them. Five centuries later, they are still unpopular with collectors.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This specimen was lot 1502 in Jean Elsen sale 147 (Brussels, June 2021), where it sold for €220 (about US$322 including buyer's fees). The catalog description&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[1]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; noted, &amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;''FRANCE, Royaume, Charles VIII (1483-1498), billon liard au dauphin, 2e émission (octobre 1488), point 18e, Paris. D/ Dauphin à g. R/ Croix cantonnée de deux lis et de deux couronnelles. Rare dans cette qualité. Superbe.'' (kingdom of [[France]], Charles VIII, 1483-98, billon liard of the dauphin, second emission of October 1488, dot under the 18th letter, Paris mint. Obverse: dolphin left; reverse: cross cantonned with two crowns and two lilies. Rare in this quality, Extremely Fine.)&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt; These ''monnaies noires'' (black money), cheaply made, heavily counterfeited and frequently demonetized, were the bane of the poor who were forced to use them. Five centuries later, they are still unpopular with collectors&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;. In its day, this coin had a face value of three deniers&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;''Recorded mintage:'' unknown.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;''Recorded mintage:'' unknown.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;''Specification:'' 1.&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;16 &lt;/del&gt;g, 0.&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;212 &lt;/del&gt;fine silver, this specimen 0,92 g.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;''Specification:'' 1.&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;04 &lt;/ins&gt;g, 0.&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;239 &lt;/ins&gt;fine silver, this specimen 0,92 g.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;''Catalog reference:'' Dupl-600A; Ci. 828; Laf. 574a.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;''Catalog reference:'' Dupl-600A; Ci. 828; Laf. 574a.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>LatinKing2020: Created page with &quot;Jean Elsen sale 147, lot 1502  This specimen was lot 1502 in Jean Elsen sale 147 (Brussels, June 2021), where it sold for €220 (about US...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/index.php/File:JE147-1502.jpg&quot; title=&quot;File:JE147-1502.jpg&quot;&gt;550px|thumb|Jean Elsen sale 147, lot 1502&lt;/a&gt;  This specimen was lot 1502 in Jean Elsen sale 147 (Brussels, June 2021), where it sold for €220 (about US...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Image:JE147-1502.jpg|550px|thumb|Jean Elsen sale 147, lot 1502]]&lt;br /&gt;
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This specimen was lot 1502 in Jean Elsen sale 147 (Brussels, June 2021), where it sold for €220 (about US$322 including buyer's fees). The catalog description&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[1]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; noted, &amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;''FRANCE, Royaume, Charles VIII (1483-1498), billon liard au dauphin, 2e émission (octobre 1488), point 18e, Paris. D/ Dauphin à g. R/ Croix cantonnée de deux lis et de deux couronnelles. Rare dans cette qualité. Superbe.'' (kingdom of [[France]], Charles VIII, 1483-98, billon liard of the dauphin, second emission of October 1488, dot under the 18th letter, Paris mint. Obverse: dolphin left; reverse: cross cantonned with two crowns and two lilies. Rare in this quality, Extremely Fine.)&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt; These ''monnaies noires'' (black money), cheaply made, heavily counterfeited and frequently demonetized, were the bane of the poor who were forced to use them. Five centuries later, they are still unpopular with collectors.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Recorded mintage:'' unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Specification:'' 1.16 g, 0.212 fine silver, this specimen 0,92 g.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Catalog reference:'' Dupl-600A; Ci. 828; Laf. 574a. &lt;br /&gt;
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''[[Bibliography|Source:]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* Duplessy, Jean, ''Les Monnaies Françaises Royales de Hugues Capet à Louis XVI (987-1793), Tome II, 2e édition,'' Paris: Maison Platt, 1999.&lt;br /&gt;
* Roberts, James N., ''The Silver Coins of Medieval France (476-1610 AD),'' S. Salem, NY: Attic Books, 1996.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[1]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Elsen, Philippe, et al., ''Vente Publique 147: Monnaies, Médailles et Décorations'', Brussels: Jean Elsen et ses Fils S.A., 2021.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Links to:''&lt;br /&gt;
* [[France (1488) 1/2 karolus|(1488) ''petit karolus'']]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[France (1488) karolus|(1488) karolus]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[France (1489) niquet|(1489) ''niquet'']]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[France (1515-17) liard|(1515-17) ''liard au dauphin'']]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Coins and currency dated 1488]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Selections from Jean Elsen sale 147]][[Category:Base metal coinage of France]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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