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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This specimen was lot 749 in Jean Elsen sale 157 (Brussels, December 2023), where it did not sell. The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''VLAANDEREN, Graafschap, Albrecht en Isabella (1598-1621), Cu dubbele penning, 1616, Brugge. Vz/ Gekroond monogram AE. Kz/ Gekroond wapenschild op een Bourgondisch kruis tussen het jaartal. Zeer Fraai à Prachtig.'' ([[Netherlands, Spanish|county of Flanders]], Albert and Isabella, 1598-1621, copper double penny of 1616, Bruges mint. Obverse: crowned "AE" monogram; reverse: crowned arms over a Burgundian cross divides the date. Very Fine - Extremely Fine.)"</blockquote> It was offered again as lot 984 in Jean Elsen sale 158 (Brussels, March 2024), where it sold for €60 (about US$78 including buyer's fees). The catalog description<sup>[2]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''VLAANDEREN, Graafschap, Albrecht en Isabella (1598-1621), Cu dubbele penning, 1616, Brugge. Vz/ Gekroond monogram AE. Kz/ Gekroond wapenschild op een Bourgondisch kruis tussen het jaartal. Zeer Fraai à Prachtig.'' (county of Flanders, Albert and Isabella, 1598-1621, copper double penny of 1616, Bruges mint. Obverse: crowned monogram "AE"; reverse: crowned arms over a Burgundian cross divides two firesteels. Very Fine - Extremely Fine.)"</blockquote> This type of 1606-10 and 1615-16 is listed in the SCWC as a two deniers, its French name. We will catalog it by its Flemish name, ''dubbele penning''. It was slightly heavier than a [[Brabant 1616(a) gigot|''gigot'']] so we conclude it was worth more.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This specimen was lot 749 in Jean Elsen sale 157 (Brussels, December 2023), where it did not sell. The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''VLAANDEREN, Graafschap, Albrecht en Isabella (1598-1621), Cu dubbele penning, 1616, Brugge. Vz/ Gekroond monogram AE. Kz/ Gekroond wapenschild op een Bourgondisch kruis tussen het jaartal. Zeer Fraai à Prachtig.'' ([[Netherlands, Spanish|county of Flanders]], Albert and Isabella, 1598-1621, copper double penny of 1616, Bruges mint. Obverse: crowned "AE" monogram; reverse: crowned arms over a Burgundian cross divides the date. Very Fine - Extremely Fine.)"</blockquote> It was offered again as lot 984 in Jean Elsen sale 158 (Brussels, March 2024), where it sold for €60 (about US$78 including buyer's fees). The catalog description<sup>[2]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''VLAANDEREN, Graafschap, Albrecht en Isabella (1598-1621), Cu dubbele penning, 1616, Brugge. Vz/ Gekroond monogram AE. Kz/ Gekroond wapenschild op een Bourgondisch kruis tussen het jaartal. Zeer Fraai à Prachtig.'' (county of Flanders, Albert and Isabella, 1598-1621, copper double penny of 1616, Bruges mint. Obverse: crowned monogram "AE"; reverse: crowned arms over a Burgundian cross divides two firesteels. Very Fine - Extremely Fine.)"</blockquote> This type of 1606-10 and 1615-16 is listed in the SCWC as a <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[Tournai 1616 2 deniers|</ins>two deniers<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">]]</ins>, its French name. We will catalog it by its Flemish name, ''dubbele penning''. It was slightly heavier than a [[Brabant 1616(a) gigot|''gigot'']] so we conclude it was worth more.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* [[Brabant 1616(h) patagon Dav-4432|Brabant 1616 patagon, Antwerp mint]]</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* [[Flanders 1616 2 souverain d'or Fr-223|1616 ''dubbele souverein'']]</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This specimen was lot 749 in Jean Elsen sale 157 (Brussels, December 2023), where it did not sell. The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''VLAANDEREN, Graafschap, Albrecht en Isabella (1598-1621), Cu dubbele penning, 1616, Brugge. Vz/ Gekroond monogram AE. Kz/ Gekroond wapenschild op een Bourgondisch kruis tussen het jaartal. Zeer Fraai à Prachtig.'' ([[Netherlands, Spanish|county of Flanders]], Albert and Isabella, 1598-1621, copper double penny of 1616, Bruges mint. Obverse: crowned "AE" monogram; reverse: crowned arms over a Burgundian cross divides the date. Very Fine - Extremely Fine.)"</blockquote> This type of 1606-10 and 1615-16 is listed in the SCWC as a two deniers, its French name. We will catalog it by its Flemish name, ''dubbele penning''. It was slightly heavier than a [[Brabant 1616(a) gigot|''gigot'']] so we conclude it was worth more.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This specimen was lot 749 in Jean Elsen sale 157 (Brussels, December 2023), where it did not sell. The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''VLAANDEREN, Graafschap, Albrecht en Isabella (1598-1621), Cu dubbele penning, 1616, Brugge. Vz/ Gekroond monogram AE. Kz/ Gekroond wapenschild op een Bourgondisch kruis tussen het jaartal. Zeer Fraai à Prachtig.'' ([[Netherlands, Spanish|county of Flanders]], Albert and Isabella, 1598-1621, copper double penny of 1616, Bruges mint. Obverse: crowned "AE" monogram; reverse: crowned arms over a Burgundian cross divides the date<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">. Very Fine - Extremely Fine.)"</blockquote> It was offered again as lot 984 in Jean Elsen sale 158 (Brussels, March 2024), where it sold for €60 (about US$78 including buyer's fees). The catalog description<sup>[2]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''VLAANDEREN, Graafschap, Albrecht en Isabella (1598-1621), Cu dubbele penning, 1616, Brugge. Vz/ Gekroond monogram AE. Kz/ Gekroond wapenschild op een Bourgondisch kruis tussen het jaartal. Zeer Fraai à Prachtig.'' (county of Flanders, Albert and Isabella, 1598-1621, copper double penny of 1616, Bruges mint. Obverse: crowned monogram "AE"; reverse: crowned arms over a Burgundian cross divides two firesteels</ins>. Very Fine - Extremely Fine.)"</blockquote> This type of 1606-10 and 1615-16 is listed in the SCWC as a two deniers, its French name. We will catalog it by its Flemish name, ''dubbele penning''. It was slightly heavier than a [[Brabant 1616(a) gigot|''gigot'']] so we conclude it was worth more.</div></td></tr>
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This specimen was lot 749 in Jean Elsen sale 157 (Brussels, December 2023), where it did not sell. The catalog description<sup>[1]</sup> noted, <blockquote>"''VLAANDEREN, Graafschap, Albrecht en Isabella (1598-1621), Cu dubbele penning, 1616, Brugge. Vz/ Gekroond monogram AE. Kz/ Gekroond wapenschild op een Bourgondisch kruis tussen het jaartal. Zeer Fraai à Prachtig.'' ([[Netherlands, Spanish|county of Flanders]], Albert and Isabella, 1598-1621, copper double penny of 1616, Bruges mint. Obverse: crowned "AE" monogram; reverse: crowned arms over a Burgundian cross divides the date. Very Fine - Extremely Fine.)"</blockquote> This type of 1606-10 and 1615-16 is listed in the SCWC as a two deniers, its French name. We will catalog it by its Flemish name, ''dubbele penning''. It was slightly heavier than a [[Brabant 1616(a) gigot|''gigot'']] so we conclude it was worth more.<br />
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''Recorded mintage:'' unknown.<br />
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''Specification:'' copper, this specimen 2,54 g. <br />
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''Catalog reference:'' KM 6; G.H. 299-6; V.H. 599. <br />
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''[[Bibliography|Source:]]''<br />
* Cuhaj, George S., and Thomas Michael, ''Standard Catalog of World Coins, 1601-1700, 6th ed.'', Iola, WI: Krause Publications, 2014. <br />
* van Gelder, H. Enno, and Marcel Hoc, ''Les Monnaies des pays-Bas Bourguignons et Espagnols, 1434-1713,'' Amsterdam, J. Schulman, 1960, with supplement of 1964.<br />
* <sup>[1]</sup>Elsen, Philippe, et al., ''Vente Publique 157, Collection J.-C. Martiny'', Brussels: Jean Elsen et ses Fils S.A., 2023. <br />
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* [[Namur 1579 2 deniers]]<br />
* [[Brabant 1613(s) liard]], Maastricht mint<br />
* [[Thorn 1614 oord]]<br />
* [[Brabant 1616(a) gigot]], Brussels mint<br />
* [[Brabant 1616(t) gigot]], Bois-le-Duc mint<br />
* [[Coins and currency dated 1616]]<br />
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